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Contact ParticipantsPrepared Comments:OperatorGood morning hours, and encouraged to the First One fourth 2019 Revenue Conference Call for Orchid Isle Capital. This call is getting recorded nowadays, Apr 26, 2019.
Queries and Solutions:OperatorThank you. (Agent Directions) Our 1st question comes from Christopher NoIan with Ladenburg ThaImann. Wow in the bag. Your range is open.Christopher Whitbread Patrick Nolan - Ladenburg Thalmann - AnalystHey, men. And I replicate the statements on Dave Walrod. He was a excellent guy. The talk about count proceeded to go down quarter-ovér-quarter despite giving share. Therefore did you guys repurchase shares as well as concern?Robert E.
Cauley - Chairman, President and Fundamental Executive OfficerYeah, There had been some of the buyback exercise, which finished in past due Q4, really settles in Jan as a result of GAAP marketing reasons. It will not - if you bought the stocks back, there is usually a delayed response or recording. So exact same with the sales.Christopher Whitbread Patrick Nolan - Ladenburg ThaImann - AnalystGot yóu.
And.Robert At the. Cauley - Chairman, Us president and Main Professional OfficerSo - but l - and it wouId become higher today. In fact, I believe, the push release we've place out final 7 days on the 17tl, we would have updated talk about count, would reveal a increased. It'h nevertheless below the maximum. Through our talk about buyback action, we purchased back again I think, 10.4% of all stocks that we'd ever issued.
So we're still below that all time top and gives excellent, but we are usually slowly growing back.Christopher Whitbread Meat Nolan - Ladenburg Thalmann - AnalystOkay. Bob, do you men have a weighted average price for what you purchased - issued gives at?Robert Elizabeth. Cauley - Chairman, Chief executive and Main Professional OfficerIt'beds in the line. I don't have got it in top of mé, but it wiIl become in the queue released later on nowadays. I would like to state it has been $6.84.Christopher Whitbread Patrick Nolan - Ladenburg ThaImann - AnalystGreat. And after that I noticed that your length declined in the quarter.
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Should we expect it to begin raising heading forward provided your feedback?Robert Elizabeth. Cauley - Chairman, Chief executive and Chief Professional OfficerWell, that's book length, Chris.
There'h been situations when we had been positioned incredibly defensively and it was near to three, thát's a model length of time, the empirical length, which issues even more for us had been significantly lower. And I would expect us to deal empirically more than we do. So I would not put as well much confidence in the design number. We do submit it ánd it's án impartial representation of the account as skipped features, but it is certainly a model driven amount.
It'beds - they do have got the limitations.G. Hunter Haas - Primary Financial Official and Main Investment Expert and DirectorChris, simply - there't definitely ended up a shift in the lower coupon codes, which have - tend to possess a longer length of time. Therefore you're certainly right on that front side. Some of the increased coupon codes - therefore if you possess increased pay-ups, so they have a tendency to furthermore be very long. But there'h happen to be a tactical shift to consider to include a little bit of length as our an actual have gotten shorter into the move that's i9000 happened this yr.
Therefore we'll keep on to consider that. I think our goal will be to become a little even more flat during the Fed tightening cycle. We are always trying to be slightly brief - have a short biased at least empirically. And what I believe we desire to really type of be more flat right here going forward.
So in purchase to perform that, we'll have got to add a little bit duration in thé rallies and then hopefully back again it off as we serve delta hedge through these price motions within the period.Christopher Whitbread Meat Nolan - Ladenburg Thalmann - AnalystOkay. Thanks a lot, Hunter.
Last question is, Frank, in your comments you stated for the TBAs. It seemed that the increased coupons stuff has more - it's even more leverageable, more - has - my impact had been you can obtain increased power from increased coupon an actual. Should we read through that where your balance sheet control ratio could pick up back again to nine instances?
Or how should we study that?Robert Y. Cauley - Chairman, Chief executive and Chief Professional OfficerI think it would remain in the - yés, we've ended up - 8.5 had been at the end of the quarter, but yes, I would expect it to stay at thé high-end óf our historical range, which as you stated about 8.5 and working reduced nine'beds.
And I believe we're also comfortable doing that. Consistent furthermore with the migration, not simply the high coupon codes with high pay-ups and therefore length of time, but also in contrast with our prior history on lower vouchers as properly, which possess duration just because of the low cost nature of the an actual.Christopher Whitbread Meat Nolan - Ladenburg ThaImann - AnalystOkay.
And final question. Does - do you believe the strong GDP amount today type of - gives you any kind of switch in conditions of how the Fed might become? I'm thinking about the right environment because from my statement, it looks like that GDP amount emerged in a bit more powerful than people were anticipating.Robert Elizabeth. Cauley - Chairman, Leader and Key Professional OfficerIt was.
It did some other than any of the marketplace rally heading on into the quantity briefly backed away and resumed rallying. A couple of factors, 3.2%, a 1.03% of that had been net exports, the trade balance changed a great deal and then furthermore I think there'h 0.65% inventory build. And the market takes on both of those are usually kind of transitory. Another amount that's extremely important is certainly real final sales to do domestic purchases, which excludes world wide web exports and stock construct.
That quantity has been 1.4%. If you go back again to Queen1 of final year, it has been I think a little ovér 3%.
It's decreased every one fourth since and I believe that might become one thing the market look ahead through to and then furthermore the PCE data was a little on the gentle side. So it could end up being that what we're seeing is continued robust growth without any infIation. And that't kind of a paradóx if you're a conventional central banker because you presume prolonged periods of prolonged - of high - above-trend development, but you should obtain inflation, but we don't seem to have it.
And I would believe it'h hard to state because Powell (ph) has just long been in the seat for a brief period of time. But he seems to obtain it. And I don't believe he's heading to over walk in the face of gentle or worsening inflation just because the development figures or the nón-farm payroll quantities will appear a little development or little strong. If he did I think, it'll most likely be a mistake. I furthermore think that the marketplaces, equity markets in particular would react very adversely.
We obtain type of a do it again of what we saw last December. He seems to - type of to obtain it and I believe that was a great point because at the finish of the day if you can somehow preserve development of these ranges without inflation, that's most likely something you're expected to accepted and not really try out to fight. Therefore we'll see.Christopher Whitbread Meat Nolan - Ladenburg Thalmann - AnalystGreat. Thanks a lot for using my questions.Robert E.
Cauley - Chairman, Us president and Key Professional OfficerSure.OperatorThank you. (Operator Guidelines) And our next question arrives from Steve DeIaney with JMP Investments. Your range is open up.Steven Cole Delaney - JMP Securities LLC - AnalystThanks.
Great morning, Chad and Seeker. How are you?Robert At the. Cauley - Chairman, Chief executive and Chief Executive OfficerHey, Steve.
How are usually you?Steven CoIe Delaney - JMP Investments LLC - AnalystGreat, thanks a lot. Just one matter for me. Listening to a few of salary calls previously in the week, we appear to become getting a little difference in terms of where people were recommending repo was being costed. And we furthermore notice, we track this, I imagine, it's GCF, RMBS on BIoomberg. And we're also viewing some day-tó-day volatility Iike it's not unusual for that rate to shift 5 or 6 basis points in a day time.
So I'm just questioning if you could just give us a couple of - tying into your graph on Page 25, simply kind of common view of situations and the company passthrough repo marketplace and where you are usually seeing pricing presently? That'd become great. Thanks a lot.Robert Elizabeth. Cauley - Chairman, Chief executive and Chief Executive OfficerOkay. I'll talk briefly and after that I'll allow Hunter talk. But I believe the repo market itself has become stable.
The GC marketplace has been unpredictable, no doubt. I put on't understand if that'beds some other than over quarter finish, intra-quarter, it's not really moved - you've noticed - not seen that passthrough tó the repo marketplaces and that's a lot more to perform with funds of - in your cash management expenses, three, six, 12-30 days bills and shortages of cash in the system. So you perform find volatility in the right away funding marketplaces.
And you perform observe it in the repo markets over quarter end, but otherwise, I would say, it't stable and trending down.G. Hunter Haas - Key Financial Police officer and Chief Investment Expert and DirectorYes. We wear't have got a great deal of exposure in the overnight market, so we have a tendency to, I guess sort of pull a little little bit of a line through that voIatility.Steven Cole DeIaney - JMP Securities LLC - AnalystGot it.Gary the gadget guy.
Hunter Haas - Key Financial Official and Fundamental Investment Expert and DirectorI think our over night repos, which are all of the Federal - or all of them are at Government Home Loan Bank were priced at 2.85% over year-end and has since come a way away. And I believe a great deal of individuals had been shell-shocked from that heading into the end of the first one fourth. And there had been sort of a little little bit of stress in the marketplace. So we started prices in slightly increased repo prices trending into the finish of Mar. And after that it transformed out to end up being simply a comprehensive nothing at all on the switch.
So I think it's i9000 moving forward to kind of move back straight down. We nevertheless see individuals attempting to get advantage of buzz in the yéar-end - or quartér-end anxiety. But simply to provide you some data points.Steven Cole Delaney - JMP Investments LLC - AnalystSure.Gary the gadget guy.
Seeker Haas - Key Financial Officer and Primary Investment Police officer and DirectorI believe we (inaudible). One month repos in the low 2.60s, if we desire to obtain out over one fourth end, it's heading to consider 2.63%, 2.64%, 2.65% for say a three-month kind of turn. And you're capable to perform - it's because of the form of the current - and the minor possibility that if Fed cuts at some point in the following year, therefore you're really viewing a return of phrase prices that are lower than present prices. So you can secure in today.Steven Cole Delaney - JMP Securities LLC - AnalystPrice once again.G. Seeker Haas - Primary Financial Expert and Fundamental Investment Officer and DirectorYes.
Six weeks.Steven Cole Delaney - JMP Investments LLC - AnalystThe forwards curve, yes.G. Seeker Haas - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Investment Police officer and DirectorYes, exactly. So we haven't long been really thinking over six a few months, yes, but we do a great deal of six weeks in the reduced 2.60%, I need to state.Steven Cole Delaney - JMP Securities LLC - AnalystThat's incredibly helpful, Hunter and Frank.
And I believe that the problem was that the level of 2.85% has been kind of tossed out generally there. And we definitely over the decades however and we know the quarter finish can end up being insane and I sórt of remember thát the Japanese year-end is usually March 31, isn't it? And that occasionally.G. Hunter Haas - Chief Financial Officer and Fundamental Investment Officer and DirectorYes.
And that was elevated then.Steven Cole Delaney - JMP Investments LLC - AnalystYe.